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Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B. 1855-1948

Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B. 1855-1948
I have referred to most people's relationship as related to Admiral Startin. He was Les's great grandfather's first cousin. Les's date of birth was 24th May 1955.

Please start at the bottom of the page with Admiral James Startin as it will make more sense that way.

Saturday 18 September 2010

Sarah Thrupp 1782 -

The Admiral’s grandmother was Sarah Thrupp, born in 1782 in Westminster.

from - Frederick Thrupp (1812-1895) - 
Survivals from a Sculptor's Studio (No.25)

Sarah's first cousin was the famous sculpture Frederick Thrupp, who still has a large collection on show at Torre Abbey.

Thomas McMicking 1829 - 1866

A relative of Admiral James Startin's wife, Alice McMicking, was a Thomas McMicking who lived in Canada.
taken from his book - Overland from Canada to British Columbia.


Thomas McMicking trekked across the Rockies in 1862/3 to get to the Caribou goldfields and kept a journal as he went. This has been published as - Overland from Canada to British Columbia.




Tragicaly Thomas McMicking drowned in 1866 at the age of 37 while unsuccessfully trying to save his young son from the Fraser River, British Columbia.

Francis Winstone Scott 1882 -

Another cousin of Admiral James Startin, and a sister to Charles Williams Startin was Alice May Startin born in 1850, who had a son:

Francis Winstone Scott was born in 1882 and married Ernestine Hester Maud Bowes Lyon, first cousin to Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon, the Queen Mother.

Royal Scandal
Ernestine
married a man called Francis Scott in 1910 and had two sons. However, she then fell in love with army officer Ronald Grant, Baron de Longueuil, and eventually followed him when he went to fight on the Western Front.
Unfortunately, the army officer
Ronald tried to end their relationship. This decision made Ernestine feel devastated.
She became so distraught she shot herself in the chest. The bullet failed to kill her and remained lodged below her heart for the rest of her life.
As a result of the ensuing scandal,
Ernestine returned to London and was divorced by her husband in 1918. Her cousin the Queen Mother never spoke to her again. Ernestine went on to marry her lover.

Chateau - The Family Home in Navarrenx

from - http://www.delongueuil.com/bioganglais.htm#m -

Ernestine lived until 1981, ending her days at this Chateau in the Pyrenees - so the bullet seemed to have not done much harm!

This connection is closer than I thought as it was Leslie's grandmother's second cousin, Frances Winstone Scott, who married Ernestine Bowes Lyons.

I am now in contact with Ernestine's grandson, Michael Grant (12th Baron de Longueuil).



Rachel Grant as Peaceful Fountains of Desire with 

Pierce Brosnan as James Bond in Die Another Day.


Michael's daughter Rachel Grant was in the James Bond film Die Another Day with Pierce Brosnan.

taken from Talk Talk - 
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/tv/switched-on/5-minutes-with/interview/rebecca-grant.html

While another daughter Rebecca Grant has been in Holby City.



Daughter Angela Grant runs a ballet School
From her ballet school website - http://www.balletclasseslondon.co.uk/index.html

Olive Dorothy Startin 1893-

Olive Dorothy Startin born in 1893, she was a first cousin once removed to Admiral James Startin.

c. www.fbhm.net/Missionaries/missionaries.htm


Olive married in 1926 and her father-in-law was Gabriel Estwick Ford, born about 1851 in Barbodos. Gabriel was later a church minister but I have not found out yet how he came to be born in Barbados, perhaps his family were missionaries.
Funnily enough there is a government minister on Barbados now called Dr David Eswick.

Charles Williams Startin 1852-

Attached section of Horwood's wonderful 1812 map showing No.150 tucked away up 
an alley directly opposite Rood Lane. Kindly supplied by Bryan Mawer of 
www.mawer.clara.net site for sugar refiners and sugarbakers


The Admiral's cousin was Charles Williams Startin born 1852 who was a sugar merchant in
Fenchurch Street London
.
Charles Williams daughter was Olive Dorothy Startin born in 1893.

Thomas Bignold



Samuel Bignold's father was Thomas Bignold, also of Norwich, and founder of the Norwich Building Society.

Norwich Union was founded in 1797 in Norwich, when 36-year-old merchant and banker Thomas Bignold formed the "Norwich Union Society for the Insurance of Houses, Stock and Merchandise from Fire", a mutual society owned by the policyholders who received a share of the profits. This in turn became known as the Norwich Union Fire Insurance Office.

Samuel Bignold 1791-1895

Part of portrait (1874), of Sir Samuel Bignold (1791–1895), 
by Frederick Sandys (1829–1904) from Wikipedia


Edward Henry Bickersteth's father-in-law was Samuel Bignold - later Sir. Samuel had been Mayor of Norwich and later MP.

Edward Henry Bickersteth 1825 - 1906

taken from his online book published in 1907

The Bishop of Exeter was Edward Henry Bickersteth who had a 250+ page book written on his life. This is online at http://www.archive.org/details/lifeo...henr00agliuoft - I have not worked my way through it all yet!

Rev'd Henry Startin

Rev'd Henry Startin was the Admiral's brother. He married Effie Maud Bickersteth, the daughter of the Bishop of Exeter. In 1891 before her marriage she was living at home at the Palace (Bishops) and they had ten servants - housekeep, 2 housemaids, lady's maid, kitchen maid, scullery maid, nurse, 2 footmen and a coachman!

James Startin 1850-



The Admiral's first cousin was another James Startin, born 1850, also a famous doctor.
Dr Startin was at 15 Harley Street and also wrote medical books, one of which was:


The Care of the Skin and Hair: Containing Suggestions as to Diet, Clothing, 
Bathing and Cosmetics (1902) - by Dr James Startin

James Startin Wills Arthur 1881 - 1955

Admiral James Startin's nephew was:


James Startin Wills Arthur second marriage to his wife Jean in Singapore.

James Startin Wills Arthur attended Marlborough College..

James Startin Wills Arthur, Acting Resident Councillor of Penang from (1934-1935)
He was working in Malaya
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1491053299055615433ETBFNG 


Robert Darwin 1682-

One branch has been traced back to Robert Darwin

Birth 1682 in Elston Hall, Elston, Balderton, Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Elston Hall was "the home of the Darwin family from 1680 until just after the Second World War, when the estate was sold. Its most famous resident was the savant Erasmus Darwin, grandfather of Charles Darwin.
The Darwin family married into the Wedgewood family and have descendants such as Anthony Wedgewood Benn (one time MP) and his son Hilary.

William Ralph Frecheville 1895-1920

Captain Royal Engineers Executed after Capture 09/01/1920 aged 24, Rostov-on-Don, Russia whilst serving as part of the British Force in Russia. No Known Grave Remembered on: Ewhurst War Memorial, Memorial Plaque and Book of Remembrance Memorial Window, St Peter & St Paul's, Ewhurst Haidar Pasha Memorial, Istanbul Rugby School Roll of Honour c. website of Andrew Bailey, Ewhurst, Surrey - http://www.ewhurstfallen.co.uk/Men-research/frecheville/frecheville.htm


William Frecheville's son - William Ralph Frecheville
Birth 1895 in Redhill, Surrey, England
Death 9 Jan 1920 in Rostov on Don, Russia (executed after capture) and has an extensive biography online - http://www.ewhurstfallen.co.uk/Men-research/frecheville/frecheville.htm

William Frecheville 1855 - 1940






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The Admiral's first cousin, William Frecheville was born in Halifax Nova Scotia in 1855 and was professor of mining, a graduate of RSM who had worked on mining sites around the world. William was educated at a technical school in Berlin and the RSM. in 1912 after extensive mining experience in S Africa, India and the US he was appointed professor of mining.

James Startin 1805-1872


On his father's side the Admiral had an uncle James Startin
Birth 2 Dec 1805 in Morley, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England


Brompton Cemetery - c. js on www.findagrave.com

Death 24 Dec 1872 in Essex, Greater London, United Kingdom

From the Science Museum - documented in Aneasthesia News - August 2003 http://www.aagbi.org/index.htm Patent applied for - 
mentioned in in Journal of Iron and Steel, vol 46 p118 1847 - 
living at 3 Finsbury Place, Finsbury Sq.

(Startin Pneumatic Inhaler - invented in 1840s - now in the Science Museum)
who started a famous skin hospital, treated Charles Darwin's eczema and lived at 3 Savile Row - later made famous by the Beatles who had their Apple Studio there and where they did their last ever performance from the roof.


The above image shows the only second inhaler to survive.  Now purchased by t AAGBI Collection – an article and picture appeared in Anaesthesia News in July 2010.


James Startin, the doctor from Savile Row who died in 1872 endorsed Pears Soap - (BMJ 4 JUNE 1960)
Pears soap carried the testimonial of three prominent dermatologists-Erasmus Wilson, James Startin, and John Milton, the founder of St. John's Hospital for Diseases of the Skin. I do not suppose that the nature of soap has changed much since their time, but knowledge of its action on the skin has broadened and the whole position has now altered in that other cleansers are available.

Robert Pate 1819-1995

c. http://vichist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/


Beckenham Cemetery and Crematorium Beckenham Greater London
from find a grave website


The Admiral's uncle on his mother's side was Robert Pate (b 1819) - Robert had been in the 10th Hussars and was transported to Tasmania for hitting Queen Victoria (full details on the Old Bailey website http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F18500708.xml )- but came back after 7 years and was still a wealthy man, as his father, Robert Francis Pate
Birth 1786 in Thomey, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 5 aug 1856 in Wisbech st peters Cambridgeshire
was Deputy Lieutenant of Cambridgeshire and High Sheriff of Cambridge and Huntingdonshire

Lydia Mary Harrington 1882-1964



Rev'd Harrington's daughter was Lydia Mary Harrington
Birth 30 Nov 1882 in Poole, Dorset,
Death 7 May 1964 in Brooklands Farm, Sageston, Pembrokeshire.
Lydia married John Joshua Roberts and was Leslie Roberts' of Sandy Grove, Llanteg, grandmother

Rev'd Joseph Harrington 1848-1927

Rev'd Joseph Harrington
Birth 1848 in Broadwater Worthing Sussex
Death 23 Feb 1927 in Tudor Lodge Jameston Pembrokeshire where he had been Baptist minister.

Rev'd Harrington was Baptist Minister at
Penuel Baptist chapel and churchyard
 Penual, Jameston.
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The Harrington Family (apparently this photo and inscription are still on view in the Lodge) ‘
Moved to Tudor Lodge from Bournemouth 
Back row L-R –Will Harrington, Lydia Harrington, George Harrington, Lena Harrington, Reg Harrington, Alice Harrington. Front row L-R – Grace Harrington, Mrs Harrington (Kezia Harman), Rhoda Harrington, Rev’d Josepth Harrington, Bert Harrington.

Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B.1855-1948

Famous enough to be on a cigarette card!


Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B.
Birth 10 Jun 1855
in Hounslow/Turnham Green, Middlesex, England




  • Forwarded courtesy of Ann Griffiths who did the legwork on hayling Island: Gravestone in St Mary's graveyard Hayling Island:

    IN LOVING MEMORY OF ALICE STARTIN THE BRAVEST OF WOMEN A LOVING WIFE A DEVOTED MOTHER THE STAUNCHEST OF FRIENDS BORN JULY 18TH 1863 DIED JULY 6TH 1923 ALSO OF JAMES STARTIN LATE ADMIRAL RN BORN MAY 20TH 1855 DIED SEPTEMBER 25TH 1948 BELOVED HUSBAND AND FATHER "THE BRAVEST OF THE BRAVE."
from Rai England -  I visited Admirals Startins grave at Hayling about ten years ago, to add to your history he also served in the zulu war, aboard HMS Tenedos receiving the South Africa medal with 1879 clasp, he also received the Royal Humane Award for saving life at sea twice, medal numbers 22095 and 19895 unfortunately i only have one date 23 may 1876 with notes Danube and Bashilea Bay.