Jane Caroline Thrupp 1807-1882

Jane Caroline Thrupp

Taken from her larger portrait by George Richmond RA (still in the family - c.quailriley)

Clara Harriet Thrupp 1858-1946

Clara Harriet Thrupp was born in Adelaide, Australia.

Travelled from Sydney Australia to London, England aboard Peninsular & Orient Steam Navigation Company Ship 'Mooltan'. Proposed address - Ladies Lyceum Club, 138 Piccadilly, London, W1.

James Godfrey Thrupp 1849-1913

James Godfrey Thupp was a famous surgeon in the Zulu Wars.

http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3811
James Godfrey Thrupp, Member of the Royal College of Surgeons (Eng) 1871
Date of registration with the General Council of Medical registration: 18 Sept 1872

In the UK Medical Register of 1878, Dr Thrupp's residence is given as 1 St George's Place, Hyde Park, London.
In the corresponding register of 1891 (next I'm able to access), his residence is 33 Curzon St, Mayfair
Then in 1896, Lyndhurst, Addlestone, Surrey
Then in 1904 & 1909, 97 Uxbridge Road, Ealing
He disappears from the medical registers by 1912

There's something in the 1904 register entry that says (St George's, Paris, Vienna, Milan). Where he studied/practiced?
 Dr Thrupp was, I believe, a civilian surgeon in Natal, who volunteered for war service and was appointed as the RMO of 1st/24th. I know nothing about him prior to this. He was not only with Glyn's Column at the end of the war, but at the beginning too - he was at Isandlwana on the fateful day.

In the early hours of the morning, when Lord Chelmsford made the decision to divide his force, advancing with the 2nd/24th and leaving 1st/24th in camp, he also gave orders that no wagons were to be taken. Nobody relayed this part of his order to the Principal Medical Officer (PMO) Surgeon-Major Peter Shepherd, who decided that while he himself would stay in camp (hence 1st/24th taken care of), Dr Thrupp would go out with the Flying Column, taking two wheeled ambulances with him (contrary to the GOC's orders). He went with a handful of medics and drivers, would have tailed along behind the troops, struggled at the big dongas intersecting the Isandlwana plain,and by the time he caught up, whatever excitment there was on that side of the plain was just about over. By now concern was growing about what was going on behind them at the camp. He would have participated in the chilling return to Isandlwana that evening, slept somehwere on the battlefield, and would have been one of the last to arrive at Rorke's Drift the following morning, also of course a charnel house by this stage. He would have helped Surgeon James Reynolds (exhausted) with his surviving patients and the newly wounded, the majority of the B Coy men having cuts and grazes of one kind or another. After that...dunno, sorry.
There are two mentions of Dr Thrupp in General Orders during the Zulu War.
(See Local General Orders relating to the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879.)

No. 219, dated 10th December 1878, Times of Natal 13th December 1878.
7. Civil Surgeon Thrupp will take over medical charge of the 1-24th Regiment, in place of Civil Surgeon Hartley, reported sick.

District Order No. 9, dated 26th April 1879, Natal Mercury, 29th April 1879.
8. Civil Surgeon Thrupp will proceed on horseback to Ladysmith, where he is to report his arrival to the senior medical officer for duty.

From Rai England - as for James G Thrupp I also have the same death date registered in Brentford District and the Ealing address, I am sure I have tried one of the Ealing cemeteries (the older one) but with no luck, the newer cemetery charges so have not tried the books there, but I have done a number of foot searches with no luck. I think the old cemetery at Brentford is a good bet for him.

Helen Fretwell 1815-1867

Picture kindly forwarded by Mr Rob Scott

Helen Fretwell was the wife of James Startin (1805-1872), the famous Dr.

William Low 1814-1886

from - http://www .bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/innovators/william_low.shtml
William Low

Made the first attempt to construct a tunnel under the English Channel.

Born:1814Died:1886Place of Birth:ScotlandBiography:William Low was born in Scotland and became a surveyor and civil engineer, working at one time with the famous engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel.

I n the 1840s he worked on the Shrewsbury to Chester railway which brought him to the Wrexham area. He became the joint owner of Vron Colliery in 1850 and bought a house near Coedpoeth. In 1864 he designed and built a house called 'Roseneath' on Rhosddu Road in Wrexham, near the entrance to the site of the present Yale College. It was in this house that he formed the Channel Tunnel Company and drew up the first realistic plans for a tunnel under the channel. The idea of a tunnel linking Britain and France was not new - the first ever design had been produced in 1802 by a French engineer.

However, Low's was the first practical attempt to make this dream a reality. He bought land near Dover and Calais in order to achieve his dream. He had to fund his attempt himself as he was unable to funding from the British Government. The first tunnel chamber was excavated at Shakespeare Cliff near Dover in 1870.

Low's progress was halted by the Franco-Prussian war. In 1881 Low recommenced his work and succeeded in completing over 1000 yards of the tunnel at Dover. But work was once again halted when fears were raised that the French could use the tunnel to invade Britain.

By now Low was 70 years old and had run out of funds to continue the project. He moved to London where he died in 1886 aged 72.

T hough 'Roseneath' has been demolished reminders of Low's time in Wrexham remain in the form of the Westminster Buildings in Wrexham and the Argyle archway leading from Regent Street to Argyle Street. They were designed and built by Low in 1875 and a mural and plaque on Argyle Street commemorate his achievements.

Adelaide Thrupp 1831-1908

 

Merrow House.

Merrow's "Big House", is a very plain and "boxy" three storey brick building. It dates from 1802, was a home to the Thrupp family for many years, became an old folks home 1949-78 before being converted into old people's flats in 1984. © Copyright Colin Smith and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.
Merrow Infants School a church school. Miss Adelaide Thrupp was responsible for the building of this school to replace the little one opposite the Horse and Groom.
It was extended in 1901 about the time some of the houses were built.

Dorothy Anne Thrupp 1779-1847

Thoughts for the day [by D.A. Thrupp]. Dorothy Anne Thrupp - 1836.

Joseph Francis Thrupp 1827 - 1867

Joseph Francis Thrupp was vicar of Barrington, Cambridge.

Wrote a book on Ancient Jerusalem in 1855

George Henry Harman 1848-1922

George Henry Harman was the father of Kezia b 1859 (Leslie's great grandmother) who married George Harrington.

Harmans Yard 1958. The old Town Hall was in the middle of Fish Street in 1572 It was demolished in 1761 and its site added to the road.  After the war the old building was used by H. Harman &Co iron scrap and metal merchants.It had on its wall a tablet to mark the bicentenery of the conversion of John Wesley Founder of Methodism. picture from Vilma Larner

He lived in Fish Street (now Castle Street), Poole and was a Marine Store Dealer.

The  Wesley  plaque was saved in the 1960’s demolition of Harman's in Poole and replaced on the new building near the site now in Castle Street and known as Wright House.  It is occupied at present by Raglan Housing Association as its HQ.  Kindly forwarded to me by Ian.

George Athelstan Thrupp 1830 -1905

Charles Joseph Thrupp's son, George Athelstan Thrupp wrote a book on the History of Coaches in 1877.

The book can be read at - http://www.archive.org/details/historyofcoaches00thru

Charles Joseph Thrupp 1792 - 1872

Charles Joseph Thrupp ran a famous coach building company in London with showrooms in Oxford Street.  The firm had been building coaches since the 1760s.

A light elliptic spring coach.

Exhibitors in the Great Exhibition 1851; 

obtained Prize Medal at the Paris Exhibition 1855.

Charles exhibited in the Great Exhibition at Crystal Palace in 1851, along with his brothers - John Augustus Thrupp and Henry Joseph Thrupp.

© copyright Gravestone Photographic Resource 1998 – 2013

c Marion Davies TQ 2681 NE CITY OF WESTMINSTER PADDINGTON GREEN, W2 41/3 (west side)
Monument to Thrupp family approximately 12 metres south-west of Church of St Mary. GV II Monument. Late C18-early C19. Ashlar. Pedestal, sarcophagus with gadrooned edge and swept cover with further gadrooning surmounted by shallow pediment.

Recesses for inscriptions to each side, that to the west side has been lost, that to the south appears to be a later replacement and commemorates Mary Burgan (d 1795), wife of Joseph Thrupp and their son (d 1872). The inscription plaque to the east side commemorates J A Thrupp (d 1844) and his wife Caroline (d 1842). The plaque to the north side commemorates Mary, wife of Joseph Thrupp (d 1845) and their granddaughter Caroline (d 1845).

Robert White Thrupp 1821 - 1907

Another famous relative of Frederick Thrupp was Robert White Thrupp 1821-1907.

Robert was a famous photographer and connected with the art firm of Windsor and Newton.  He took photographs of old Birmingham before buildings were demolished. 

When he died his will was worth over £4 million in today’s currency.

Sarah Thrupp 1782 -

The Admiral’s grandmother was Sarah Thrupp, born in 1782 in Westminster.

from - Frederick Thrupp (1812-1895) - 

Survivals from a Sculptor's Studio (No.25)

Sarah's first cousin was the famous sculpture Frederick Thrupp, who still has a large collection on show at Torre Abbey.

Thomas McMicking 1829 - 1866

A relative of Admiral James Startin's wife, Alice McMicking, was a Thomas McMicking who lived in Canada.

taken from his book - Overland from Canada to British Columbia.

Thomas McMicking trekked across the Rockies in 1862/3 to get to the Caribou goldfields and kept a journal as he went. This has been published as - Overland from Canada to British Columbia.

Tragicaly Thomas McMicking drowned in 1866 at the age of 37 while unsuccessfully trying to save his young son from the Fraser River, British Columbia.

Francis Winstone Scott 1882 -

Another cousin of Admiral James Startin, and a sister to Charles Williams Startin was Alice May Startin born in 1850, who had a son:

Francis Winstone Scott was born in 1882 and married Ernestine Hester Maud Bowes Lyon, first cousin to Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon, the Queen Mother.

Royal Scandal
Ernestine married a man called Francis Scott in 1910 and had two sons. However, she then fell in love with army officer Ronald Grant, Baron de Longueuil, and eventually followed him when he went to fight on the Western Front.
Unfortunately, the army officer Ronald tried to end their relationship. This decision made Ernestine feel devastated.
She became so distraught she shot herself in the chest. The bullet failed to kill her and remained lodged below her heart for the rest of her life.
As a result of the ensuing scandal, Ernestine returned to London and was divorced by her husband in 1918. Her cousin the Queen Mother never spoke to her again. Ernestine went on to marry her lover.

Chateau - The Family Home in Navarrenx

from - http://www.delongueuil.com/bioganglais.htm#m -

Ernestine lived until 1981, ending her days at this Chateau in the Pyrenees - so the bullet seemed to have not done much harm!

This connection is closer than I thought as it was Leslie's grandmother's second cousin, Frances Winstone Scott, who married Ernestine Bowes Lyons.

I am now in contact with Ernestine's grandson, Michael Grant (12th Baron de Longueuil).

Rachel Grant as Peaceful Fountains of Desire with 

Pierce Brosnan as James Bond in Die Another Day.

Michael's daughter Rachel Grant was in the James Bond film Die Another Day with Pierce Brosnan.

taken from Talk Talk - 

http://www.talktalk.co.uk/tv/switched-on/5-minutes-with/interview/rebecca-grant.html

While another daughter Rebecca Grant has been in Holby City.


Daughter Angela Grant runs a ballet School

From her ballet school website - http://www.balletclasseslondon.co.uk/index.html

Olive Dorothy Startin 1893-

Olive Dorothy Startin born in 1893, she was a first cousin once removed to Admiral James Startin.

c. www.fbhm.net/Missionaries/missionaries.htm

Olive married in 1926 and her father-in-law was Gabriel Estwick Ford, born about 1851 in Barbodos. Gabriel was later a church minister but I have not found out yet how he came to be born in Barbados, perhaps his family were missionaries.
Funnily enough there is a government minister on Barbados now called Dr David Eswick.

Charles Williams Startin 1852-

Attached section of Horwood's wonderful 1812 map showing No.150 tucked away up 

an alley directly opposite Rood Lane. Kindly supplied by Bryan Mawer of 

www.mawer.clara.net site for sugar refiners and sugarbakers

The Admiral's cousin was Charles Williams Startin born 1852 who was a sugar merchant in

Fenchurch Street London

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Charles Williams daughter was Olive Dorothy Startin born in 1893.

Thomas Bignold

Samuel Bignold's father was Thomas Bignold, also of Norwich, and founder of the Norwich Building Society.

Norwich Union was founded in 1797 in Norwich, when 36-year-old merchant and banker Thomas Bignold formed the "Norwich Union Society for the Insurance of Houses, Stock and Merchandise from Fire", a mutual society owned by the policyholders who received a share of the profits. This in turn became known as the Norwich Union Fire Insurance Office.

Samuel Bignold 1791-1895

Part of portrait (1874), of Sir Samuel Bignold (1791–1895), 

by Frederick Sandys (1829–1904) from Wikipedia

Edward Henry Bickersteth's father-in-law was Samuel Bignold - later Sir. Samuel had been Mayor of Norwich and later MP.

Edward Henry Bickersteth 1825 - 1906

taken from his online book published in 1907

The Bishop of Exeter was Edward Henry Bickersteth who had a 250+ page book written on his life. This is online at http://www.archive.org/details/lifeo...henr00agliuoft - I have not worked my way through it all yet!

Rev'd Henry Startin

Rev'd Henry Startin was the Admiral's brother. He married Effie Maud Bickersteth, the daughter of the Bishop of Exeter. In 1891 before her marriage she was living at home at the Palace (Bishops) and they had ten servants - housekeep, 2 housemaids, lady's maid, kitchen maid, scullery maid, nurse, 2 footmen and a coachman!

James Startin 1850-

The Admiral's first cousin was another James Startin, born 1850, also a famous doctor.
Dr Startin was at 15 Harley Street and also wrote medical books, one of which was:

The Care of the Skin and Hair: Containing Suggestions as to Diet, Clothing, 

Bathing and Cosmetics (1902) - by Dr James Startin

James Startin Wills Arthur 1881 - 1955

Admiral James Startin's nephew was:

James Startin Wills Arthur second marriage to his wife Jean in Singapore.

James Startin Wills Arthur attended Marlborough College..

James Startin Wills Arthur, Acting Resident Councillor of Penang from (1934-1935)
He was working in Malaya
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1491053299055615433ETBFNG 

Robert Darwin 1682-

One branch has been traced back to Robert Darwin

Birth 1682 in Elston Hall, Elston, Balderton, Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Elston Hall was "the home of the Darwin family from 1680 until just after the Second World War, when the estate was sold. Its most famous resident was the savant Erasmus Darwin, grandfather of Charles Darwin.
The Darwin family married into the Wedgewood family and have descendants such as Anthony Wedgewood Benn (one time MP) and his son Hilary.

William Ralph Frecheville 1895-1920

Captain Royal Engineers Executed after Capture 09/01/1920 aged 24, Rostov-on-Don, Russia whilst serving as part of the British Force in Russia. No Known Grave Remembered on: Ewhurst War Memorial, Memorial Plaque and Book of Remembrance Memorial Window, St Peter & St Paul's, Ewhurst Haidar Pasha Memorial, Istanbul Rugby School Roll of Honour c. website of Andrew Bailey, Ewhurst, Surrey - http://www.ewhurstfallen.co.uk/Men-research/frecheville/frecheville.htm

William Frecheville's son - William Ralph Frecheville
Birth 1895 in Redhill, Surrey, England
Death 9 Jan 1920 in Rostov on Don, Russia (executed after capture) and has an extensive biography online - http://www.ewhurstfallen.co.uk/Men-research/frecheville/frecheville.htm

William Frecheville 1855 - 1940

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  Ewhurst Parish Church Sturdy stone church, St Peter's and St Paul's was first founded in Norman times. It has ironstone walls and Horsham Flagstone roof. The adjacent yews are characteristic of a churchyard. © Copyright Colin Smith and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.

The Admiral's first cousin, William Frecheville was born in Halifax Nova Scotia in 1855 and was professor of mining, a graduate of RSM who had worked on mining sites around the world. William was educated at a technical school in Berlin and the RSM. in 1912 after extensive mining experience in S Africa, India and the US he was appointed professor of mining.

James Startin 1805-1872

On his father's side the Admiral had an uncle James Startin
Birth 2 Dec 1805 in Morley, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Brompton Cemetery - c. js on www.findagrave.com

Death 24 Dec 1872 in Essex, Greater London, United Kingdom

From the Science Museum - documented in Aneasthesia News - August 2003 http://www.aagbi.org/index.htm Patent applied for - 

mentioned in in Journal of Iron and Steel, vol 46 p118 1847 - 

living at 3 Finsbury Place, Finsbury Sq.

(Startin Pneumatic Inhaler - invented in 1840s - now in the Science Museum)
who started a famous skin hospital, treated Charles Darwin's eczema and lived at 3 Savile Row - later made famous by the Beatles who had their Apple Studio there and where they did their last ever performance from the roof.

The above image shows the only second inhaler to survive.  Now purchased by t AAGBI Collection – an article and picture appeared in Anaesthesia News in July 2010.

James Startin, the doctor from Savile Row who died in 1872 endorsed Pears Soap - (BMJ 4 JUNE 1960)
Pears soap carried the testimonial of three prominent dermatologists-Erasmus Wilson, James Startin, and John Milton, the founder of St. John's Hospital for Diseases of the Skin. I do not suppose that the nature of soap has changed much since their time, but knowledge of its action on the skin has broadened and the whole position has now altered in that other cleansers are available.

Robert Pate 1819-1995

c. http://vichist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/

Beckenham Cemetery and Crematorium Beckenham Greater London
from find a grave website

The Admiral's uncle on his mother's side was Robert Pate (b 1819) - Robert had been in the 10th Hussars and was transported to Tasmania for hitting Queen Victoria (full details on the Old Bailey website http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F18500708.xml )- but came back after 7 years and was still a wealthy man, as his father, Robert Francis Pate
Birth 1786 in Thomey, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 5 aug 1856 in Wisbech st peters Cambridgeshire
was Deputy Lieutenant of Cambridgeshire and High Sheriff of Cambridge and Huntingdonshire

Lydia Mary Harrington 1882-1964

Rev'd Harrington's daughter was Lydia Mary Harrington
Birth 30 Nov 1882 in Poole, Dorset,
Death 7 May 1964 in Brooklands Farm, Sageston, Pembrokeshire.
Lydia married John Joshua Roberts and was Leslie Roberts' of Sandy Grove, Llanteg, grandmother

Rev'd Joseph Harrington 1848-1927

Rev'd Joseph Harrington
Birth 1848 in Broadwater Worthing Sussex
Death 23 Feb 1927 in Tudor Lodge Jameston Pembrokeshire where he had been Baptist minister.

Rev'd Harrington was Baptist Minister at

Penuel Baptist chapel and churchyard

 Penual, Jameston.

   © Copyright Ruth Sharville and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.

The Harrington Family (apparently this photo and inscription are still on view in the Lodge) ‘

Moved to Tudor Lodge from Bournemouth 

Back row L-R –Will Harrington, Lydia Harrington, George Harrington, Lena Harrington, Reg Harrington, Alice Harrington. Front row L-R – Grace Harrington, Mrs Harrington (Kezia Harman), Rhoda Harrington, Rev’d Josepth Harrington, Bert Harrington.

Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B.1855-1948

Famous enough to be on a cigarette card!

Admiral Sir James Startin K.C.B.
Birth 10 Jun 1855
in Hounslow/Turnham Green, Middlesex, England

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  Forwarded courtesy of Ann Griffiths who did the legwork on hayling Island: Gravestone in St Mary's graveyard Hayling Island:
  
  
  

  IN LOVING MEMORY OF ALICE STARTIN THE BRAVEST OF WOMEN A LOVING WIFE A DEVOTED MOTHER THE STAUNCHEST OF FRIENDS BORN JULY 18TH 1863 DIED JULY 6TH 1923 ALSO OF JAMES STARTIN LATE ADMIRAL RN BORN MAY 20TH 1855 DIED SEPTEMBER 25TH 1948 BELOVED HUSBAND AND FATHER "THE BRAVEST OF THE BRAVE."

from Rai England -  I visited Admirals Startins grave at Hayling about ten years ago, to add to your history he also served in the zulu war, aboard HMS Tenedos receiving the South Africa medal with 1879 clasp, he also received the Royal Humane Award for saving life at sea twice, medal numbers 22095 and 19895 unfortunately i only have one date 23 may 1876 with notes Danube and Bashilea Bay.